Tim Miller of @bulwarkmedia joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistakes of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men. 0:00 Intro 2:20 Miller's Media Diet 4:34 How Miller Came To Elevate The Bulwark 10:34 How To Understand The Trump Origin Story 16:12 Who Really Benefits From Trump's Success 26:03 How Do Democrats Win Nationally 34:05 Did Covid Turn Democrats Into The Establishment? 40:59 Miller's Relationship With Charlie Kirk & Turning Point USA 46:17 The Left's Inability To Engage Young People 52:00 Is The Theo Von Voter Up For Grabs? **BOOK ALERT** Preorder Young Man in a Hurry by Gavin Newsom, out February 2026. Pre-order your copy: Email: TIGNPod@ -------------------------------------- Follow Governor Gavin Newsom! X: TikTok: @gavinnewsom Instagram: Facebook: Substack: @gavinnewsom #ThisIsGavinNewsom #TimMiller #TheBulwark #NeverTrump #TurningPointUSA #TPUSA #PoliticalPodcast #Election2025 #AmericanPolitics #CultureWar #GenZPolitics #YoungVoters #ReachYoungMen #RightWingMedia #MAGA #Trump2025 #TrumpMistakes #DemocracyDebate #PoliticalCommentary