Kara and Rachel talk about Rachel’s newest podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order," which unravels how the blatantly unconstitutional incarceration of more than 100,000 Japanese American and Japanese immigrants during WWII was planned and carried out. They also explore the parallels to President Trump's mass-deportation policies, discuss the recent boat strikes on alleged drug traffickers, the escalating drama around the competing bids for Warner Bros. Discovery (and what it signals for the future of the news business) and MSNBC's evolution into MS NOW. This wide-ranging conversation connects the past to the present—and asks what we can learn before history repeats itself. 00:00 Introduction 01:40 Finding the best bacon, egg, and cheese 03:58 How Rachel Maddow chooses stories and avoids the Trump attention machine 07:08 Rachel Maddow’s new podcast Burn Order on WWII Japanese incarceration 28:04 Parallels between WWII and today's immigration crackdown 37:28 Trump's illegal boat strikes 44:52 Media mergers and the future of news — Subscribe: Apple Podcasts: Spotify: FOLLOW US Instagram: TikTok: @onwithkaraswisher?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc LinkedIn: Threads: @onwithkaraswisher Bluesky: