Ed Elson breaks down the January jobs report with Kathryn Anne Edwards, Labor Economist and host of The Optimist Economy podcast. They discuss why 2025 was the worst “non-recession” year for hiring since 2003. Then, Ed is joined by Alex Heath, founder of the Sources newsletter and host of the Access Podcast, to unpack the latest AI models, as well as a viral blog post shaking up the AI conversation. Finally, Ed explains why AI policy is so important, and why it's currently lacking. Check out Alex’s interview with OpenAI's Fidji Simo Timestamps 00:00 - Today's Number 00:43 - Jobs Report (ft. Kathryn Anne Edwards) 13:16 - Break 13:46 - AI Update (ft. Alex Heath) 25:55 - Break 26:25 - AI and Jobs 31:06 - Credits — Subscribe to the Prof G Markets newsletter: Order "Notes On Being A Man" now! Subscribe to No Mercy / No Malice: Follow Markets on Instagram: Follow Scott on Instagram: Follow Ed on Instagram, X and Substack: @edwardelson Note: We may earn revenue from some of the links we provide.