The brilliant computer scientist Fei-Fei Li is often called the Godmother of AI. She talks with host Reid Hoffman about why scientists and entrepreneurs need to be fearless in the face of an uncertain future. Li was a founding director of the Human-Centered AI Institute at Stanford and is now an innovator in the area of spatial intelligence as co-founder and CEO of World Labs. This conversation was recorded live at the Presidio Theatre as part of the 2025 Masters of Scale Summit. Chapters: 00:00 Introducing Fei-Fei Li 02:06 The next phase of AI: spatial intelligence & world modeling 09:26 What spatial intelligence has done for humans 16:35 Is AI over-hyped? 20:45 How should leaders build society trust in AI? 24:15 Why we need to be "fearless" with AI 📫 THE MASTERS OF SCALE NEWSLETTER 35,000+ read our free weekly newsletter packed with insights from the world’s most iconic business leaders. Sign up: 🎧 LISTEN TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: Spotify: 💻 LEARN MORE Our website: 🚀 JOIN OUR COMMUNITY LinkedIn: Facebook: Instagram: X/Twitter: TikTok: @mastersofscale 💡ABOUT US On Masters of Scale, iconic business leaders share lessons and strategies that have helped them grow the world's most fascinating companies. Founders, CEOs, and dynamic innovators (from companies like Uber, Airbnb, Apple, and Disney) join candid conversations about their triumphs and challenges with a set of luminary hosts, including founding host Reid Hoffman — LinkedIn co-founder and Greylock partner. From navigating early prototypes to expanding brands globally, Masters of Scale provides priceless insights to help anyone grow their dream enterprise. #mastersofscale #leadership #leadershiplessons #entrepreneurship #entrepreneur #ai #artificialintelligence #artificialintelligencetechnology #futureofai #futureoftech #tech #technology #feifeili #worldmodel #worldlabs #marble #spatialintelligence #reidhoffman #mastersofscalesummit #aiforbusiness #aiexpert